Skynyrd Frynds...thats a laugh!!1
September 07, 2012 2:36:22 AM UTC Post #1

Hi folks,

I`m just wondering if any of you have been on the forum "SKYNYRD FRYNDS" I have just deleted myself from it as I`ve found it to be more of a Skynyrd BASHING forum,If its not music/history from the original band(and there is lots of history/road stories about the original band) then they don`t want to know about it.The final straw for me came when i read a thread about how Allen Collins was at one time going to sue Rickey Medlocke for plagiarism about how Freebird & Highway Song have the same musical section or some such rubbish,this was annoying enough but one of the people replying admitted that although they agreed that Freebird & Highway song were similar she had NEVER heard Highway song????
Now call me a cynic, but how do you know the 2 songs have similar arrangements if you`ve never heard one of them.I was just wondering if there are any others out there who are/were members of this forum & what there opinions are.


LIVE WELL,LAUGH OFTEN,DRINK TEQUILA & LISTEN TO SKYNYRD..........Brother Norm!!!!

September 09, 2012 12:41:10 PM UTC Post #1

=Brother Norm!!! said:Hi folks,

I`m just wondering if any of you have been on the forum "SKYNYRD FRYNDS" I have just deleted myself from it as I`ve found it to be more of a Skynyrd BASHING forum,If its not music/history from the original band(and there is lots of history/road stories about the original band) then they don`t want to know about it.The final straw for me came when i read a thread about how Allen Collins was at one time going to sue Rickey Medlocke for plagiarism about how Freebird & Highway Song have the same musical section or some such rubbish,this was annoying enough but one of the people replying admitted that although they agreed that Freebird & Highway song were similar she had NEVER heard Highway song????
Now call me a cynic, but how do you know the 2 songs have similar arrangements if you`ve never heard one of them.I was just wondering if there are any others out there who are/were members of this forum & what there opinions are.


You're always going to get people like that. The whole "Skynyrd died with the plane crash" crap. Ronnie and Gary had always said (and now Johnny does as well) that Skynyrd is one big family. Gary even mentioned in the interviews that were posted on here (I believe) (on the Street Survivors anniversary) that Ronnie was going to transition out and Johnny would come in.

As we all know Johnny is Ronnie's younger brother - and honestly I could give a crap what that "Skynyrd Purists" (the ones I talked about before - the whole "Skynyrd died with..." group) have to think. Johnny is Ronnie's blood and he does an OUTSTANDING job on vocals. To me, Ronnie was more in the blues and country sound and Johnny has more of the country and heavy metal sound. Everyone can interpret their voices differently, but all I know is they put out AMAZING music. Gary enjoys playing still and wants to continue the band and I'm overjoyed he does.

Now in regards to the post about Blackfoot sounding like Skynyrd...

I disagree. Just because both songs start slow and go to a frenzy with frantic chord progressions doesn't mean they sound the same. Is that the same for Molly Hatchet too since they do the same? What about The Outlaws? Don't listen to people like them. They're just out there to cause conflict. If they can't support Skynyrd for their entire body of work, let them just complain in their own circle where no one pays them any mind.

Skynyrd has and always will be here to stay.

Screw the doubters.

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September 10, 2012 12:35:24 AM UTC Post #2

=Brother Norm!!! said:Hi folks,

I`m just wondering if any of you have been on the forum "SKYNYRD FRYNDS" I have just deleted myself from it as I`ve found it to be more of a Skynyrd BASHING forum,If its not music/history from the original band(and there is lots of history/road stories about the original band) then they don`t want to know about it.The final straw for me came when i read a thread about how Allen Collins was at one time going to sue Rickey Medlocke for plagiarism about how Freebird & Highway Song have the same musical section or some such rubbish,this was annoying enough but one of the people replying admitted that although they agreed that Freebird & Highway song were similar she had NEVER heard Highway song????
Now call me a cynic, but how do you know the 2 songs have similar arrangements if you`ve never heard one of them.I was just wondering if there are any others out there who are/were members of this forum & what there opinions are.



That's ALL they said? That's MILD. That's also all I'm going to say about that.
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September 10, 2012 12:37:53 AM UTC Post #3

Amen to that & thanks for the welcome.......LONG LIVE THE SKYNYD NATION!!!!

LIVE WELL,LAUGH OFTEN,DRINK TEQUILA & LISTEN TO SKYNYRD..........Brother Norm!!!!

September 10, 2012 11:04:25 AM UTC Post #4

@ SouthernRebel,The thread i read did mention specifically Freebird & Highway Song.But my point was more about how the people on the site could agree that Freebird & Highway song do sound similar & therefore agree that some of the instrumental section (guitar solo) had been deliberatley copied.....if they had not heard Highway Song.My main point being that I cannot understand how these people can call themselves fans of the band then go around calling the current band a tribute band & now the real deal, but as you said yourself.each to there own.....but i think My Own Sunshine summed it up when they said.......

Skynyrd has and always will be here to stay. Screw the doubters.

Now that is a sentiment I can agree with.


LIVE WELL,LAUGH OFTEN,DRINK TEQUILA & LISTEN TO SKYNYRD..........Brother Norm!!!!

September 11, 2012 4:35:55 PM UTC Post #5

Well thats the way it will allways be

what lynyrd skynyrd songs do you mostly hear on the radio and be honest?

theres nothing wrong with people loving and enjoying the music made by the old lineups.

i dont think theres any place johnny van zant or gary rossington said that they are GREATER AND BETTER THAN THE OLD LINEUPS AND MAKE BETTER MUSIC THEN THEM .

And who knows its possible Al Collins did make a comment about Blackfoot copying or trying to sound like Skynyrd?

I like highway song but now that youmentioned this i thought it was skynyrd mimik as well same as molly hatchets flirting with disaster i remember not liking mollly hatchet because it bothered me how they were like copying the void of somthing special lost being Lynyrd Skynyrd at the time even though i still loved the song.

i know robert plant had a pissy fit about david coverdale copying him? so who knows?

This Lynyrd Skynyrd thing should have just been called TEAM LYNYRD SKYNYRD because they cary on as allways with different team players without ever really having a same team of members for a certain amount of time.

As far as vocals Johns vocals are higher pitched and flatter sounding his vocals are in different tune and IMO His brother had better sound and bass in his vocal in wich he sang from his throat and more of a low talk type vocal where johnny is a rocker more kind of voice . And as far as the the music id say the closest that i ever heard to REAL OLD LINEUP STUFF is 1991 and the last rebel because on those ones excpecially 1991 that one the cylynders were all firing on ALL cylynders in a making a musical statement kind of way and guess what? i did NOT hear them songs on the radio?

The Lynyrd Skynyrd That people hear on the radio more is the older line ups!

Personaly i think the choice of rick medlocke hurt this band if there goal is to make NEW music AND TRY to capture that Old hell house sound.Its a fact he plays the old songs great but IMO he simply does NOT have that hell house sound and his contributions are 80s flash show off Not the hard core telling it from the simple soul that Skynyrd songs of past are trademarked for . Because between his 80s type style of flash and the direction his input it seems sends themthey are NOT Ever going to capture THAT MAJIC of Ron and Al and Leon and Gary and Bob and Ed or just Al and Gary Leon Ron Artimus Or With Steve Gaines . Rons voice and lineups were Top jimmy something special and HIS vision of telling it was so down earth pure and simple and he could tell it through his singing while staying pitched to HIS perfect telling Key like he is sitting next ya around a campfire saying hey man this is how i feel about it through song and the other band members through there instruments could feel it too and they blended Where as the newer songs seem like they try TOO HARD TOO FAST ANDTELLING FEEL OF THAT OUTPUT CARRY OVER OF FEELING except Thegary Rossington sound and i really think its Rick Medlockes scewing it all up! Because 1991 and last rebel you can hear that hell house type out put carry over of saying something telling it like the older lineups . Where these new songs the only shread i hear of that Hell House type sound IS GARY ROSSINGTONS GUITAR SOUND !


If there goal is to have fun play skynyrd SPREAD THE GREAT WORD OF SKYNYRD its all great and good GO TEAM SKYNYRD !

But if there trying to illuminate the past They aint going to be able to ever do that with the members they have now JMO and MY EARS TELL ME THAT!....

So what im saying is The old Telling of old line ups was something VERY VERY VERY Music making special .
And you are LUCKY LUCKY LUCKY to be able to go see LYNYRD SKYNYRD today!
But Its a TEAM LYNYRD SKYNYRD and people are allowed to complain about songs or lineups of teams or players whatever much like a football or baseball team .

BUT WE ARE ALL lucky The world is lucky to have this band rolling on playing the old songs and new ones and making people happy and them selves . GO TEAM SKYNYRD !
oh and we are lucky to have money taken by fan clubs without knowing and still not getting t shirt that that money paid for hint hint.




Thank You Lynyrd Skynyrd for the music!

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September 12, 2012 2:59:54 AM UTC Post #6

=Just Sum Dude said:Well thats the way it will allways be

"This Lynyrd Skynyrd thing should have just been called TEAM LYNYRD SKYNYRD because they cary on as allways with different team players without ever really having a same team of members for a certain amount of time.

As far as vocals Johns vocals are higher pitched and flatter sounding his vocals are in different tune and IMO His brother had better sound and bass in his vocal in wich he sang from his throat and more of a low talk type vocal where johnny is a rocker more kind of voice .

Personaly i think the choice of rick medlocke hurt this band if there goal is to make NEW music AND TRY to capture that Old hell house sound.Its a fact he plays the old songs great but IMO he simply does NOT have that hell house sound and his contributions are 80s flash show off Not the hard core telling it from the simple soul that Skynyrd songs of past are trademarked for ."




Johnny's voice is "higher pitched and flatter"?

Johnny's voice isn't higher pitched at all. In fact, the band has to tune DOWN a half step because of the fact Johnny can't get the vocal range of Ronnie. But that doesn't mean he sucks. Far from it. Ronnie and Johnny just have slightly different styles. As I mentioned earlier, Ronnie was more blues and country. Johnny is more heavy metal/hard rock/country. He's got the voice for it too.

To say that the members don't stick around long in the new band is just confusing. Michael Cartelleone has been in since 1998 (14 years). Johnny has been in since 87 (25 years). Rickey has been in since '97 (15 years)...AND might I add, he was in BEFORE the crash, therefore, you can add that time in there. You can't blame the change in Piano, Bass. It's not Billy, Leon, or Ean's fault they were called home. It's nobody's fault. It's sad, but they're home with the father.

If you don't like the current lineup, that's your business, but don't rant on about them just because you don't like 'em

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- to help a hammer find a stone

September 12, 2012 9:02:15 AM UTC Post #7

=My Own Sunrise said:
=Just Sum Dude said:Well thats the way it will allways be

"This Lynyrd Skynyrd thing should have just been called TEAM LYNYRD SKYNYRD because they cary on as allways with different team players without ever really having a same team of members for a certain amount of time.

As far as vocals Johns vocals are higher pitched and flatter sounding his vocals are in different tune and IMO His brother had better sound and bass in his vocal in wich he sang from his throat and more of a low talk type vocal where johnny is a rocker more kind of voice .

Personaly i think the choice of rick medlocke hurt this band if there goal is to make NEW music AND TRY to capture that Old hell house sound.Its a fact he plays the old songs great but IMO he simply does NOT have that hell house sound and his contributions are 80s flash show off Not the hard core telling it from the simple soul that Skynyrd songs of past are trademarked for ."




Johnny's voice is "higher pitched and flatter"?

Johnny's voice isn't higher pitched at all. In fact, the band has to tune DOWN a half step because of the fact Johnny can't get the vocal range of Ronnie. But that doesn't mean he sucks. Far from it. Ronnie and Johnny just have slightly different styles. As I mentioned earlier, Ronnie was more blues and country. Johnny is more heavy metal/hard rock/country. He's got the voice for it too.

To say that the members don't stick around long in the new band is just confusing. Michael Cartelleone has been in since 1998 (14 years). Johnny has been in since 87 (25 years). Rickey has been in since '97 (15 years)...AND might I add, he was in BEFORE the crash, therefore, you can add that time in there. You can't blame the change in Piano, Bass. It's not Billy, Leon, or Ean's fault they were called home. It's nobody's fault. It's sad, but they're home with the father.

If you don't like the current lineup, that's your business, but don't rant on about them just because you don't like 'em


yeah his voice sounds like a more treble type voice compared to his brothers. Two total different sounding styles.
yeah he rocks out with his voice in the song THE WAY! Where did i say anywhere he sucks?? Dont say things that i NEVER SAID!! And what happened to the last bass player? how many different guitarist that are still alive? how many different drummers? how many different back up singers ? theres a whole library of lynyrd skynyrd music out there with different formations of musicians because buisness or deaths or tired of road reasons how could you sit here and argue with me over that?
You misunderstand my point is MUCH like a football team or baseball team over the years theres been a lot of different players and with those different players brought different sounds. So to get youre undies all in a bundle because some time periods with certain players made better music to peoples ears and they the people like to talk about it WHY SHOULD THAT BOTHER YOU? OR Lynyrd Skynyrd?
Obviously YOU DID NOT read my post word for word and understand what i said in it.
My EARS and my eyes see it and thats my opinion you dont like the fact people hear or see things differently too bad
I see and hear fine and know how music comes across to me I know what hooks my ears and grooves me to listen and what does not and i hear and see the reasons why the sounds are different and i will comment as i wish .
That should NOT make me a bad Lynyrd Skynyrd fan it just means i get different feelings from the telling of the song through its sound and or lyrycs, And i think there was a reason Rick Medlocke was NOT a member officiallyback when and i think his influence in the creative dept in this band does not bring out the hell house rumble like it did before But he plays the old songs ok If that bothers you im sorry . I see this band as Gary Rossingtons and his guitar has got that trademark punch and style its the only shred of the famous knockout punch flavor there packing . take that away and??????? Hes got it Hes got that sound on everysong . I wish i could talk to skynyrd and tell them personaly how i feel sometimes on this issue and this fanclub but i notice they only hang with other people who made it big or they they can trust from home or the industry and buisness it seems they cant trust anybody else i guess ya cannot blame them . Thats why ya never see them on here or have a say in how people get money drawn for nation fan club and sit around wondering where the hells there t shirt or dont recieve t shirts but they sure knew how to take there money.
Yeah but im just a nobody nothing simple truck driving man but ill keep on rolling on WHATEVER DUDE ! NEXT TIME READ MY POST THOUROLY BEFORE YA GO ACCUSIN ME OF OF THINGS I DID NOT SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

IM GONNA GET OUTA HELL IN MY DODGE A BEAUTY MADE OUT OF STEEL with my skynyrd turned up!! I LOVE LYnyrd Skynyrd i will listen to new old and whatever and its my right to decide how what wich song i want to listen to or critisize. if i dont like one song because at the time its not grooving my mood my ears are in i will turn up another!
choices choices !

Oh and by the way if ya ever bothered to read my other posts ever i ranked Xmas time again song as right up there with freebird and by the way guess who sings that in duet with dale rossington ?? JOHNNY VAN ZANT!
I LOVE THAT SONG IT KICKS MAJOR BUTT AWSOME GREAT JOB THAT CAPTURED A GREAT MUSIC MAKING MOMENT I GOT ON CD . TURN THAT ONE UP!! I WISH THEY WOULD DO THAT SONG LIVE IN CONCERT EVERY SHOW to SHOW LET THE GREAT VIBES OF THAT ONE BE SHARED TO THE PEOPLES EARS !!!!!!!!!!!!

WHOA ITS XMAS YA KNOW ITS X MAS ITS ARE FAVORITE TIME OF YEAR! JOHNNYS VOICE AND DALES SPARKLE AND SHINE THROUGH WITH THAT SPECIAL SOUND LIKE X MAS LIGHTS SPARKLING AND STAR ON TOP OF A TREE AWSOMERECORDING !!! AWSOME RIGHT THERE WITH FREEBIRD OR SWEET HOME !! SPECIAL SPECIAL SPECIAL SONG BUT FOLKS BE TOO FRICKIN COOL TO ADMIT IT !!!!! BECAUSE THEY GOT TO BE TOO COOL ............................................ BUT I AGREE I WISH X MAS WAS EVERY DAY!!! ......GREAT LYRYCS GREATLY DONE!!!

im falling asleep rambling on later olly gator after while see ya a me go to the land of dreamz bells a ringing people singing cause its x mas time again peace to you and youres and all good dogs that are well good dogs that let me scratch there ears ..

Thank You Lynyrd Skynyrd for the music!

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January 26, 2014 6:25:27 PM UTC Post #8

@ Nose to Grindstone : AMEN Nose 2 Grindstone AMEN.

January 26, 2014 6:35:06 PM UTC Post #9

"SKYNYRD FRYNDS FORUM"???...oh-oh...just never disagree with anything anyone says or believes on SFF, do not say a thing positive about Ed King on SFF because you'll be murdered almost. What a joke...should be called SKYNYRD DAY CARE CENTRE. Just because I typed in the FACT that Ed King had a HUGE part in developing that Lynyrd Skynyrd signature sound, the creator of SYNYRD FRYNDS FORUM gave me the boot. Cannot even go on the site...with this computer. WTF? Bring back the 1970's PLEASE.

January 26, 2014 6:44:40 PM UTC Post #10

You all wanna hear Johnny Van Zant at his best? Buy "No More Dirty Deals" record/CD. It was put out in 1980 I believe. Johnny is prolly the best cover singer that can be had for Lynyrd Skynyrd, but No More Dirty Deals shows what kinda tune Johnny sings best...his own tunes. Please don't wanna kill me and dismember me for this eh? Like Skynyrd Frynds Forum do...A.K.A. Skynyrd Gystapo Ynforcyrs...Whaa.

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