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September 26, 2012 8:59:42 PM UTC Post #21

=duffy c. wishbone said:@RonniesBand: If you think I am calling you a coward and your offended i am sorry.If you really want to be offended go to the other less popular forum and say something positive about the band.Band members are called whores,unfit mothers, liars,thieves,and many other choice names.You would fit in well there because your so pro Old vs the new.I am not saying that to offend you it's the truth.That forum is MORE FOR DOWNING THE BAND.THIS FORUM IS TO TRY TO BE POSITIVE AND IT IS GETTING OLD WITH FOLKS COMING IN HERE LISTENING TO ALL THE NEGATIVE CRAP.The other room is a better fit for you.Good Luck


OK, but it is not the truth. And I just joined that other forum and love it! Who cares if some there don't like Gary's band. It is their freedom of choice, but I have found rare unreleased music and info over there that is simply not available here. Thanks for the suggestion to join that forum! And I read your posts over there and found you to be just as negative as any other- there and here. Good luck to you to.

September 26, 2012 11:32:59 PM UTC Post #22

The music is available here, you just have to know who to ask.

Bet you money they don't have this available. Hughie Thomasson, lead vocals on the Vicious Cycle CD. The band wasn't sure if Johnny would recover from his throat surgery, or how long his recovery might take so Hughie took his place for the recording. I also have The Outlaws "Once an Outlaw" CD that has never been released.

Ever heard the one and only time Skynyrd played "Rockin' Little Town" live? I've got that too.

How about "Sellin' your DNA" instead of "Workin' for MCA"? That's a little gem Ean did. Or how about Ean's version of "Stairway to Heaven"? A recording so good that Robert Plant himself was going to do the vocal track for Ean, but Ean passed away before they could get together.

Then there is the "King James Version". This is a band Hughie Thomasson and Leon Wilkeson were in before Hughie reformed Outlaws and Leon went to Skynyrd back in the early 70's.

Like I said, it's out there if you know who to ask, and depending on what you have to bring to the table.

Honestly, I lost track a long time ago on exactly what I have in bootlegs.








I'm Back You Bastards!

September 27, 2012 2:10:50 PM UTC Post #23

@RonniesBand: This is my last response to you and I am going to block you from sending me e-mails.You just joined the other forum which I never named and read what I posted.I have not been a member there for a over a month and never said anything negative about the band.What are you some kind of computer stalker weirdo?Don't ever e-mail me again or I will report you.Have a great day

September 27, 2012 4:06:17 PM UTC Post #24

=Road Fatigue said:

Then there is the "King James Version". This is a band Hughie Thomasson and Leon Wilkeson were in before Hughie reformed Outlaws and Leon went to Skynyrd back in the early 70's.

Like I said, it's out there if you know who to ask, and depending on what you have to bring to the table.

Honestly, I lost track a long time ago on exactly what I have in bootlegs.


I got the Hughie Thomasson demos, but what was really interesting was the Steve Gaines recordings from an original source. They are not available here in their complete form and the Teaching an Okie to Fly came from someone who got it directly from Leon Wilkeson, again, not available here, and I was able to listen to some other unreleased Steve Gaines not available even from them and some unreleased RCB and other Allen Collins material simply not available here. Over there are people who knew the band members and got it directly from band members years ago and it is amazing as well as the info. Apparently they do not post here because of the separation between those band members and Gary.

I did not know Hughie was in King James since King James was a Jax band and Hughie lived in Tampa. And KJ was the band Leon was in before he joined Skynyrd. So Leon did not go back to Skynyrd as tho he were in Skynyrd first and then KJ and then back to Skynyrd. Leon was in KJ before Skynyrd and never went back to KJ because it was now defunct from what all I have read elsewhere.

And is there any audio available?

As for Mr. Negative and his problems, other forum members here pointed me in the right direction for the other forum and if you got any PM's it was by mistake. Sorry about that. New to this internet thing. But thanks to all those other members who wrote me about where and how to find the good stuff! I just got some unreleased outtakes of Ed, Johnny and Gary writing some music for 1991 album and the studio outtakes are sensational.

Why is it no one posts them here? Oh well. I'm hooked up now thanks to all of you.

September 27, 2012 11:27:50 PM UTC Post #25

This isn't the Hughie "Demos and Jewels", this is the 14 track "Once an Outlaw." The CDB uses tracks from it for the pre-show music.

From a Hughie interview... "Hughie: "Leon Wilkeson, Skynyrd's bass player, and I were in a band called The King James Version. We were playing at the Jet Airport Lounge in Fort Lauderdale. We played literally at the end of the runway. Jets would fly over and drown out the music. Leon got a call one night and he told me that Skynyrd had called and that they were going to record their first album and that he had to go. I told him to go, told him I loved him and that I wished him the best. I left the band at the same time and put the Outlaws back together."

Yes, there is audio of the KJV. The recording is pretty wrough but it's a gem if you are a collector.

By the way, I never said Leon went back to Skynyrd. Not sure where you got that.

Teaching an Okie to Fly is one of the better ones. I like listening to the banter.

On the 1991 outtakes, what did you think about the song "My Heart Still Belongs to Dixie"? I have no idea why that never made it to a CD.

As far as knowing band members, I'll just keep that part to myself.








I'm Back You Bastards!

September 28, 2012 10:59:34 PM UTC Post #26

=Road Fatigue said:This isn't the Hughie "Demos and Jewels", this is the 14 track "Once an Outlaw." The CDB uses tracks from it for the pre-show music.

From a Hughie interview... "Hughie: "Leon Wilkeson, Skynyrd's bass player, and I were in a band called The King James Version. We were playing at the Jet Airport Lounge in Fort Lauderdale. We played literally at the end of the runway. Jets would fly over and drown out the music. Leon got a call one night and he told me that Skynyrd had called and that they were going to record their first album and that he had to go. I told him to go, told him I loved him and that I wished him the best. I left the band at the same time and put the Outlaws back together."

Yes, there is audio of the KJV. The recording is pretty wrough but it's a gem if you are a collector.

By the way, I never said Leon went back to Skynyrd. Not sure where you got that.

Teaching an Okie to Fly is one of the better ones. I like listening to the banter.

On the 1991 outtakes, what did you think about the song "My Heart Still Belongs to Dixie"? I have no idea why that never made it to a CD.

As far as knowing band members, I'll just keep that part to myself.



Wait there are "1991" outtakes?

Where can I find these?

They say a diamond only whispers to us when we are alone...It's just forever's little trick
- to help a hammer find a stone

January 12, 2014 5:26:58 AM UTC Post #27

In response to post number 22, I see this post is dated all the way back to 9/26/2012, so I can't imagine anyone remembering now, but anyway I just though I would respond anyway to one of the things that was said. What does it mean when you stated that Ean sold his DNA? Just curious, thought it was kind of humorous, but what do you mean by that?

Thanks, and have a good day!

January 12, 2014 2:40:31 PM UTC Post #28

I don't remember the post ... but seeing that it is a Skynyrd bass related question ... I'm curious ... well what's the answer?

BTW Skynyrd's bass department hasn't been the same since Leon & Ean .... man up fellas and get another real Skynyrd lovin bass player that knows how to play it pretty in tradition of the bassmen that are now Freebirds .... just sayin




" Here to respect a part of the whole .... the bassmen, Leon & Ean "

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